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Short Sale Advice from an "Underwater" Community in the Desert

Over the course of the last week I've had the chance to read a large number of blogs and Realtor posts regarding short sales. I can't imagine there is another subject with a wider degree of opinion! There is so much information, both good and bad, it is easy to see how consumers and Realtors alike are easily confused. 

I have been a licensed Broker since 1995, but for nearly 20 years I have been principally engaged in the lending side of the business. During that time I have helped hundreds of consumers negotiate short payoffs of private and institutional loans, obtain prepayment penalty waivers, perform rate modifications on existing loans and assist with lien payoff resolutions including IRS tax liens.

Short sales and loan modifications are nothing new.

What has changed is the sheer volume of consumers who are upside down on their homes and the complexity of the mortgages they hold. This has created a tremendous market for short sale "experts" and loan modification "specialists" who offer services to desperate homeowners. And it's created a log jam at loan servicing departments with overwhelmed loss mitigation units processing inordinate numbers of applications. Of course, compounding the problem is this crazy financial services environment where the major servicers (retail banks) are incapable of adequately staffing temporary loss mitigation departments due to their financial condition. Oh, and don't forget the hideous maze of ownership rights to modern mortgages; many of whom have been sliced and diced from mortgage pools into CDOs with no clear owner, and a servicer with no vested interest in the loan itself. Fun Stuff!

Yet in spite of this there are plenty of local Realtors and Loan Modification Companies touting themselves as short sale experts with the ability to make the process "easy," "simple" or "fast."

Uh huh.

Short sale situations are as varied as the stars in the sky. Every consumer's situation is different and there is no single cookie cutter/template that will work for everyone. With that in mind here is my best attempt to provide some general guidance to homeowners or Realtors seeking to sell a home for less than is owed on the mortgage(s).

Bit of Advice #1. Get to the right people the first time around.

Mortgage ownership and servicing rights change hands at an ever more rapid pace. It is important to know WHO owns your mortgage and WHAT department handles short payoff approvals.

If you aren't sure of who owns the mortgage, perform a free search through the MERS (Mortgage Electronic Registration System) website: https://www.mers-servicerid.org/sis/  MERS is a national registration system for mortgage loans and nearly all institutional loans are registered with them.

Once you have determined who the correct servicer/owner of your mortgage is, then you need to identify which department handles short sale approvals. Do not contact the general toll free number listed on a mortgage statement or website unless you want to spend lots of time listening to "sold on hold" messages while being bounced from person to person. I generally "Google" the specific company department I am looking for if I cannot find it in my own rolodex. There are a few free public lists of Loss Mitigation Departments that you might also try. Here is one I recently found: http://iamfacingforeclosure.com/blog/loss-mitigation-phone-numbers/

Once you contact the appropriate Loss Mitigation department make sure to get a detailed list of their requirements, including any company specific forms they require. Do not use a cookie cutter template provided by some 3rd party.  

Note: If you are dealing with multiple institutional mortgages on a single property then - in my opinion - you are trying to do the impossible. However, you can get short sale approvals done when the 1st & 2nd mortgages are owned by the same company. Many lenders now have "Co-Loss Mitigation" Units that workout settlements on multiple loans simultaneously. I recently completed a short sale in Southern California with Wells Fargo by working with a group specifically setup to negotiate on behalf of Wells Fargo Mortgage (1sts) and Wells Fargo Home Equity (2nds).

Bit of Advice #2: Hardship, smardship. You have a sad story, boo hoo hoo. Now what's in it for us?

If you scan the internet you will find hundreds of samples for short sale hardship letters. Too often they focus on the borrower's reasons for needing a short sale and not the bank's reasons for accepting the short payoff. It is ok to spell out hardship but FOCUS ON THE REASONS WHY THE BANK SHOULD ACCEPT YOUR PETITION. The bank only cares about getting the maximum amount of money, in the shortest amount of time. Anything you can point out to that effect should be at the heart of your letter and application.

And be as detailed and accurate as possible. You will need an estimated HUD-1 that is spot on. And if you are looking for a pre-approval, or if you can't get the numbers to be deadly accurate, then make sure to add a minor level of padding to allow yourself some wiggle room with negotiations. Remember that the Loss Mitigator is also looking for some sort of "win" and, as it is with your clients, it's much better to under-promise and over-deliver. Besides, if the deal ends up short to close guess where the extra money is likely going to come from??? It isn't going to be from the lender whose agreed to take tens (or hundreds) of thousands less on their loan!

The key here is that you want to give the Loss Mitigation Officer as many reasons as possible to approve the short sale. Which leads me to my next piece of advice...

Bit of Advice #3. Know who you are dealing with.

Imagine yourself working in a temporary/contract $40,000 year job, sitting in a cubicle farm surrounded by hundreds (if not thousands) of other collection professionals. Your daily work life resembles a Dilbert cartoon with stacks of files on your desk that stretch to the ceiling. Pinned to the punchboards on your cubicle walls are "Matrices" of loss mitigation guidelines which spell out what you must review and what you are permitted to approve. Your phone rings incessantly and you have 14 new voicemail messages, each from some histerical Realtor or homeowner wondering when their application will be approved. You can barely go to the bathroom without someone's permission let alone approve an exception from the "greater of 80% payoff or 100% of bank AVM" rule in your region. Those exceptions require the written approval of a Loss Mitigation Officer II-A and you have only been with the bank 6 months... 

Do you really want to harass this guy? You think he really wants to take your call? Bother him too much and my guess is your short sale application will be placed in the "cylinder filing cabinet."

Instead, be nice. Don't call and harass anyone. Get an e-mail address. Nearly all of the banks have a generic e-mail string like john.doe@bankofamerica.com. Send him polite update requests every few days that he can respond to at his leisure. Keep him apprised of any market conditions regarding the subject property that might hasten his decision. Remind him of important milestones in the purchase contract. Offer to bake him cookies. Whatever it takes (within legal limits) to keep him engaged with you and your file.

Last Bit of Advice (For Realtors Only):  Own the process.  

I live and work in the West Valley of Phoenix and there is hardly a home seller here who is not upside down. I know a lot of Realtors who choose to avoid short sale listings altogether because of the time and energy they take. Others choose to use 3rd party vendors and leave it up to someone else to do most of the work. While I would never advocate that Realtors spin their wheels and work for free, I do believe that we all have some degree of responsibility to the markets and communities we serve. And remember, the more short sales we close, the fewer foreclosures there will be, the greater the number of qualified buyers that will exist in the future, and the faster we will return to a period of home value appreciation. 

There's my 2 cents. My sympathies to the millions of homeowners in this country who are upside down on their home through no fault of your own. I wish you the best of luck.

9 commentsJames "J.R." Samsing • February 25 2009 09:17AM

Comments

That was excellent advice. I have been in the business for 27 yars, and I have never heard the process described so accurately. Thanks for the websites... they will help hasten the long slow process.
Posted by Barb & Bryan Wittwer (The Solutions Team) about 1 year ago
Hi J.R., Thanks for the post on short sales. Your post clearedup short sale fog better than the class room instruction I took for short sales and foreclosures. The class was a thinly disguised infomercial for BPO class that the instructor was also offering. Anyway, I will bookmark this post and refer back to it for any short sales that I may come across.
Posted by LYDIA LAMOREUX (www.llamoreuxhomes.com) about 1 year ago
Thanks for the post JR, sounds like you have a grasp of what really goes into doing some of these. We buy a lot in the east valley, but are also buying and closing short sales in your area too. More than that, you're right about getting through to the loss mit people and trying to be human with them, more than beating them to the grind... Good post, keep up the good work. If you know of any agents that might need help closing their short sales, please don't hesitate to contact. Tracy Royce Live Free Investment Group www.LiveFreeinvestmentgroup.com
Posted by Tracy Royce (Alpha Realty) about 1 year ago
Great insights and well written. Thanks for sharing your understanding of this pocess and your adice.- Richard
Posted by Richard Roux (Watson Realty Corp., REALTORS) about 1 year ago

J.R. - This is great advice.  One thing I'd like to suggest to Realtors who are new to short sales is: ask for help.  I've seen way too many short sale listings expire and eventually foreclose because a frustrated first timer got stuck along the way. 

In fact, I highly recommend agents partnering with an agent in their office who has successfully closed at least 1 short sale.  Whatever commission split you negotiate will be well worth the education you recieve! 

 

Posted by Bria J. Toulemonde, CDPE (South Beach Investment Realty) about 1 year ago

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Posted by Ron about 1 year ago

Well done. This was an excellent overview in a stormy sea of mis information

Posted by San Diego Homes.org (San Diego Short Sales) about 1 year ago

Hi JR, I really need to get out more. I just started collecting info from my sellers after we have completed a short sale. And of course much to my surprise I keep seeing MERS as the one releasing the mortgage in the county records. My reserach led me here. Thanks for the info.

Posted by Bryant Tutas-Tutas Towne Realty, Inc 9 months ago

Complete, step by step, thanks for the 2 notes from 2 different instituional investors, I've busted my hbead here a few times, and had about come to the same conclusion

Posted by Terry McDonald 8 months ago

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